tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post6533461487627011299..comments2023-09-27T15:40:56.529+07:00Comments on Thailand Jumped the Shark: Shots Fired in BangkokUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-28253513568409238042009-04-13T18:00:00.000+07:002009-04-13T18:00:00.000+07:00it will be interesting to see Giles reaction to th...it will be interesting to see Giles reaction to the violence this weekend<BR/><BR/>the redshirts were peaceful and the leaders made sure that protesters were unarmed by having the police use metal detectors for all people entering the main site<BR/><BR/>however, the group is very large and diverse and, compared with the yellow shirts, has only a loose concensus, non-hierarchical leadership<BR/><BR/>right now the leaders are calling their supporters in Bangkok to retreat back into the main rally site surrounding Government House and at Sanam Luang and settle down for an expected siege by the army<BR/><BR/>a policeman was reported to be asking why the army needed to be called in, he thought police should have been armed and allowed to manage the situation<BR/><BR/>the army's reputation for management of internal protests is poor, both for loss of life but also that governments calling in the military normally dont last long afterdavidb98https://www.blogger.com/profile/13981752112516352320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-8633368048550365842009-04-13T15:47:00.000+07:002009-04-13T15:47:00.000+07:00I am curious to know what Giles Ungpakorn has to s...I am curious to know what Giles Ungpakorn has to say... From waht we saw on teh BBC these Reds are not as peacefull as he described last month in his talk...Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11988244904083020694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-22635815241951917862009-04-13T09:10:00.000+07:002009-04-13T09:10:00.000+07:00Fonzi: I'm trying to filter the spin.We just need ...Fonzi: I'm trying to filter the spin.<BR/><BR/>We just need to be aware its happening on both sides (remember Jakrapob used to be in the government and is a skilled operator).<BR/><BR/>Personally I think there is enough video evidence to show that <B>both</B> sides are at fault. (did you see the video ASTV just showed - no amount of red spin will be able to take away the violence they perpetrated)<BR/><BR/>It will just be like all the other clashes, there will be evidence to show both sides doing the wrong thing, and then people will just make up their own minds according to their particular prejudices.<BR/><BR/>I agree mainstram media should show both sides of the story, but unfortunately we all know that it is the current victor who writes history, and it only gets rewritten when they are no longer in power.hobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251478382712113226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-82178846394360401992009-04-13T08:59:00.000+07:002009-04-13T08:59:00.000+07:00Hobby-If you have noticed, only one side is being ...Hobby-<BR/><BR/>If you have noticed, only one side is being reported, the government side.<BR/><BR/>It is rare to read or hear something from anybody other that the MSM media's interpretations or from a government spokesperson.<BR/><BR/>A lot of filtering is going on.<BR/><BR/>The Nation is in full spin mode.<BR/><BR/>Just contrast their coverage now with October 7.Fonzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01216772526349523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-3698082061083470592009-04-13T08:48:00.000+07:002009-04-13T08:48:00.000+07:00We need to keep an open mind and be aware of the s...We need to keep an open mind and be aware of the <B>spin</B> from <B>both</B> sides.hobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251478382712113226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-63158603846464954082009-04-13T08:38:00.000+07:002009-04-13T08:38:00.000+07:00anti-I know the Reds are claiming a cover up of th...anti-<BR/><BR/>I know the Reds are claiming a cover up of the deaths.<BR/><BR/>I am scouring the websites. It is a big task. Also, the servers are slow as hell. It is very frustrating.<BR/><BR/>The video evidence is scant. So far only a couple videos up so far.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt the Thai MSM media will cover up the deaths.<BR/><BR/>If you have links, send them to me at thailandjumpedtheshark@gmail.comFonzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01216772526349523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-33940255374130635382009-04-13T08:17:00.000+07:002009-04-13T08:17:00.000+07:00I think Reds should have better PR and connection ...I think Reds should have better PR and connection to MSM. also they must have their own photographers at very least, or better - video-cameras.<BR/><BR/>at this moment Nattawut and Jatuporn have to collect evidences and witnesses and give info to foreign media about killed people. MSM are MSM everywhere - they mostly prefer to stick to "official" version, only one side of story. however Thai MSM right now are obviously VERY biased and censored. therefore it is crutial that Reds establish proper communication with foreign media and give them HARD FACTS !<BR/><BR/><BR/>otherwise Abhisit's government will continue to cover up the deaths and blame protesters as actual gultiy side rather than victims.<BR/> IT IS NOT ENOUGH to express anger at stage to their own crowd ! Jakrobob should know better than that.<BR/><BR/><BR/>certainly UDD lacks HUGE well orginsed telecommunication / propaganda machine of PAD during their 5 months of protests. and they may in fact lose because of that. it is an age of Information Technology after all ! media reports are modern warfare often more powerful than guns and bullets !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162482350304935910.post-46718942119001323892009-04-13T07:06:00.000+07:002009-04-13T07:06:00.000+07:00Nattawut a leader of the redshirts currently at th...Nattawut a leader of the redshirts currently at the GH rally site called the TV stations asking if he could be interviewed for the news but they all refused<BR/><BR/>the reds say that 2 people were killed at Din Daeng and 30 injured, the bodies have been removed by the soldiersdavidb98https://www.blogger.com/profile/13981752112516352320noreply@blogger.com